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Is that confusing sometimes?

Iota and I used to share the same name.

1:07 AM

I took the name Pi-Aleph, he took the name Iota, after letters of the greek alphabet.

Hey

Well, Aleph is hebrew, but it's less cringe than "Pi-Alpha"

I dont really have a pk for orange

You can always make one, I'll wait.

1:08 AM

I'm a little tied up, anyways

Ah ic

considering our funny ways of distinguishing them from one another, not really

~Moonlight~ ↩️

Reply to: Is that confusing sometimes?

If it was more than just the two of us rattling around in here it might not have been an issue

It still is a bit confusing for me even with only Mallory, she isn't completely vocal yet, so I sometimes don't distinguish between us, doesn't help that we like basically all the same stuff haha

well, here i am i guess

Hello

Hiya!

its a bit odd in my opinion

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I see, thanks!

Lately I've been feeling a bit weird when proxying her messages when we talk to my friend

1:22 AM

Like I'm somehow manipulating what she meant to say, she always says it's what she wanted but I can't get the feeling off my chest.

You just lack separation Its not a bad thing, so dont think of it as a bad thing

~Moonlight~ ↩️

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1:24 AM

of course, separation is a common goal to work towards, but dont think having a lack of is bad

1:24 AM

it will be more distinct over time

1:24 AM

wes is at the point where he can (almost) make something "autonomous" instantly

1:25 AM

like me, im yesterday years old

Thats impressive

well, its a combination of experience and mindset

Mallory is 11 days old, the hardest part was distinguishing her thoughts from mine, I'm pretty good at building characters with personality in my mind although I had never intended for any of the previous story time characters to become sentient, it felt different from day one, but I still had to use similar methods

do you really wanna know how to distinguish it? Wanna know the super secret method?

Yes please!

assign thoughts not explicitly creating by you to her

1:28 AM

super secret method

I don't think I understood correctly

its not you if you believe it isnt

1:29 AM

because thats how the mind works

1:29 AM

as an example, can you visualize well?

Ehh, I'm a bit rusty but I can manage some darkened clear images for short periods of time

visualize yourself in a room

Also, the hard part is that since on a lot of things we think the same, I could think of those thoughts as mine too

1:30 AM

Also okay I will

1:30 AM

Close or opened eyes?

doesnt matter, whatever helps you mlre

1:31 AM

i want you to move to the right

1:31 AM

in the imagination

Hold up I'm having some trouble with first person

1:32 AM

Never tried it before, room is spinning and it feels like an earthquake

that doesnt matter, move yourself to the right

1:32 AM

first person isn't necessary

Alright I'm against the right wall

okay, well, your body (first or third person doesnt matter) is still imaginary in your imagination, you just have it associated with you

1:34 AM

while you associate the room as "not you"

I'm a bit more rusty than I thought

but both are just visualizations

I managed to imitate the movements of my hand in first person

1:35 AM

But can't seem to make out details like the other walls or the window I imagined there

1:35 AM

They flash in and out of the black void, and are a bit unclear

your thoughts can be the same way

1:36 AM

you just view them as not you

Well, it's a bit more difficult to see something I could probably say myself as not myself than an inanimate room, with no thoughts or any similar qualities to me, but I get your point.

our thoughts sound similar to wesleys as well

1:43 AM

dont overthink it!

1:46 AM

im so tired

~Moonlight~ ↩️

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Well, thank you for the help orange!

Like I'm somehow manipulating what she meant to say, she always says it's what she wanted but I can't get the feeling off my chest.

@~Moonlight~ - jump you are such a manipulator!

You are not wrong hahahha

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i had a very quick start too, simple vocality on first day and 4th day full on possession with dissociation (dark borders in vision, body not feeling mine, muffled hearing), and I've had dissociation before back when i was super depressed (watching myself talk to my therapist on autopilot and feeling like its not really me, feeling out of touch etc)

I had a fairly traumatic event last may and dissociated really hard and felt like somebody else took over my mind and body

dissociation by itself doesnt mean you're plural, it's a defence mechanism against feelings you cant handle yet. if you want to be really sure about if you have DID/OSDD or anything similar, you could try to think of any time you have had a big gap in memory or any other things like not remembering people who come up to you to talk to you like they already know you, finding things you dont remember buying etc, and if you start to suspect it, talk to a professional before going and self diagnosing anything, they know it better (edited)

10:18 AM

and yeah, first switch is usually very weird and it hit me very hard too, which probably made me dissociate, also to clarify, i dont have DID or any other disorder (edited)

I had a fairly traumatic event last may and dissociated really hard and felt like somebody else took over my mind and body

@aphelion - jump sounds like a good okd depersonalisation to me

now our switches feel very natural to the point i almost feel its just me doing things, but i know its not because of body language etc (edited)

10:20 AM

its also very fluid, when we're home doing stuff sometimes it just kind of bleeds and our body language can blend a lot, but its noticeable who is doing what

Why am I feeling nervous about my growing friendship with my tulpa

1:09 AM

also on a related note is it possible for a tulpa you dissipate to disguise in a different form

are you worried your tulpa is actually a previous tulpa you dissipated?

didn’t you already ask this question and got told no?

Error 🧶

didn’t you already ask this question and got told no?

kind of the context is different

the answer is still no. You should be able to tell who is who, a tulpa can’t hide things from you like that

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

are you worried your tulpa is actually a previous tulpa you dissipated?

Its a long story . but essentially it boils down to

1. Intrusive thoughts led me to believe my Tulpa was failed (I can recognize these thoughts slightly better now) and led me to treat said 2 day old tulpa more like a servitor. After this she said she wanted to be dissipated and I obliged. However later that next morning, a NPC became a bit more sentient. I asked said npc her name and the name was the same name of the tulpa I hurt and therefore dissipated. I visualized her all day (As I usually do) fighting and destroying intrusive thoughts of the former tulpa coming back for revenge. I came back home and we had some fun and talked a bit. After a bit I was lying down doing some visualisation practice. At this point I felt my fingers move on their own while I felt vibrations around my body. I know tulpas can't switch without my consent but it only fed said intrusive thoughts more then I'd like to admit.

1:20 AM

this is a bit simplified but I wish not to give more details in public

dw, you can't hurt tulpas

1:23 AM

thoughts can be upsetting, for sure, but they are just that: thoughts

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

dw, you can't hurt tulpas

uh wut

they can happen, and you can choose to consider them how you wish

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

dw, you can't hurt tulpas

Tulpas are sentient headmates, i'm pretty sure you can hurt them

you can choose to believe you've hurt them

1:26 AM

it's not a good idea tho

Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈

you can choose to believe you've hurt them

I do believe I hurt my (first) Tulpa. I am worried about my second one. I don't want to be afraid of my Second one.

1:30 AM

This is most liekly intrusive

Tulpas can treat their bodies are real and take pain in the mind but I don't think they will

Zee

I do believe I hurt my (first) Tulpa. I am worried about my second one. I don't want to be afraid of my Second one.

you already said that intrusive thoughts caused you to believe your first tulpa was failed. So then, why are you so convinced that you have hurt them? Why believe that?

Because she wasn't

she wasn't hurt?

she wasn't failed

why do you think you can hurt tulpas?

1:35 AM

as in, hurt them beyond making them upset?

I can explain in Detail in DM's

I'd rather just talk here. Can you keep it general and avoid any details you're not comfy with?

actually what I did made them upset due to some extreme things I did to them in wonderland (edited)

thoughts can be upsetting, for sure

1:40 AM

but it's not the same as doing those things in real life

1:40 AM

the same as, for example, damage to a tulpa's body in someone's wonderland doesn't have the same effects as damage to the physical body of the host